1 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,356 A film by Jürgen Leth and Lars von Trier 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,640 Idea: Lars von Trier, based on Jürgen Leths "The Perfect Man", 1967 3 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,670 So, I don't want to decide here. 4 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,800 But we set out without a script admitted the project. 5 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,237 The idea is that we Watch “The Perfect Man.” 6 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,189 And then I would like to I formulate obstacles with you... 7 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,319 ...which should serve as a basis. 8 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,510 I imagine we do it five times the same film: The Perfect Man. 9 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,356 Let's take a look at him. Then you have it present. 10 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,036 I've probably seen him twenty times. - That's fantastic. 11 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,558 Yes, there he is. 12 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:23,680 Who is he? What can he do? 13 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,713 What does he want? 14 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,116 Why is he moving like that? 15 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,000 Why is he moving this way? 16 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Look at him. Look at him now. 17 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:35,076 And now. 18 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,756 Keep looking at him. 19 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,677 Now the music is gone. 20 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,832 No more music. 21 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,076 The perfect person is in a room without borders and without anything. 22 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,755 And a voice says a few words. 23 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,958 This voice that says these words. 24 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,634 Look at him now. 25 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,076 Keep looking at him. 26 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,032 This little pearl let's destroy now. 27 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,397 It has to be that way. 28 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,075 A good perversion. You have to maintain it. 29 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,079 First obstacle... Write it down. 30 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,792 Maximum of 12 images per shot. 31 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,477 Obstacle 1: 12 images 32 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,073 I could well imagine... A few questions are asked in the film. 33 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,599 The speaker asks some questions. 34 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,151 Correct. "What is this person doing? What about the music...?" 35 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,551 I would like to have them answered. 36 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,837 Obstacle 1: 12 images. Answer. 37 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,516 I have to think for a moment. 38 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,355 I have to think for a moment. Now you can film Jürgen. 39 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,911 Good, such a cigar. This gives... 40 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,551 ...someone a job. 41 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,312 Seen purely manually. While you think. 42 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,672 In Haiti I smoke after that Always a cigar for dinner. 43 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,073 And in special ones Occasions it is a Havana. 44 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,075 What does this look like geographically? Where is Cuba from there? 45 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,234 Cuba is near Haiti. I've never been to Cuba. 46 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,797 Then the film has to be shot there. 47 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,192 That's obvious. 48 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,116 Carsten, the budget allows for that the first film is shot in Cuba? 49 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,591 Obstacle 1: 12 images. Answer. Cuba. 50 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,630 You decide whether you take people with you and how you work. Documentary or... 51 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,750 I want to make a room there too. It can also be a shield. 52 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,800 It's annoying, but that's not possible. - Really? 53 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,874 Then I'd better not say what I want. - Now you said it. 54 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,440 No shielding. 55 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,911 Obstacle 1: 12 images. Answer. Cuba. No set. 56 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,950 I'm already looking forward to the film. He's going to be fantastic. 57 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,271 This is the first one. - Exactly. 58 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,559 Have a nice trip, Jürgen. - Thank you. Thank you, Lars. 59 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,474 See you soon. 60 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,274 That's completely crazy. 61 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,789 Maximum of 12 images per shot. 62 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,758 Damn... 63 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,276 That's totally... 64 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,238 ...destructive. 65 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,790 This is totally destructive. 66 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,112 What the hell does he expect from me? 67 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:50,237 He does it... 68 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,837 ...broken right from the start. So... 69 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,351 ...a spastic film. 70 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,913 This is too difficult. Really. 71 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,871 That doesn't work. 72 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,636 A single car drives past. One. 73 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,719 And another one. 74 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,797 Along the water. 75 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,670 Kind of idiotic to get up so early. 76 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,034 Look! Now she lies down. 77 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,674 How does she lie down? 78 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,473 So she lies down. So. 79 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,391 We are in Cuba. - Yes. 80 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,918 We take a real man. 81 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,039 Man cubano. 82 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,592 What's her name? -Vivian. 83 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,914 She is a dancer. - She looks good. 84 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,835 Sing. - Do you speak English? No. 85 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,759 She is lovely. - Yes, she looks good. 86 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,395 Where is Dan? - We're waiting for Dan. 87 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,871 Have they explained it? 88 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,874 No, we haven't explained anything. 89 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,350 She looks very good. 90 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,672 Hello, I'm Dan, the photographer. 91 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,436 She is a dancer. - Really? Good. 92 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,354 The others come too, a little later. - We don't have to decide anything yet. 93 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,113 We don't have to decide anything. 94 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:57,237 Does she have the phone number? 95 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,915 Jos� has them. - Jos� has it? 96 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,397 We become the perfect person see in function. 97 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,676 How does it work? 98 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,312 What kind of creature is this? We'll take a look at that. 99 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,959 We will investigate that. 100 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,876 Now we will see how the perfect one person looks and what he can do. 101 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,238 He brought photos of the second woman. 102 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,598 He says it's a bad picture, she is very beautiful. 103 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,832 Yes, looks like that. - At least that's what he says. 104 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Yes, sure. - He says she has great breasts. 105 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,878 My goodness! 106 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,918 And then these. I don't know. 107 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,152 We don't take them. 108 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,560 No. 109 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,838 Would that be a variant, Dan? 110 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,074 Claus Nissen cuts it out of the scene onto his hands and then onto paper. 111 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,596 But that looks messy. 112 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,832 He couldn't be out of the picture have a bowl of water? 113 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,959 Yes that works. - Then that's okay. 114 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,637 Today I experienced something that... hopefully I'll understand soon. 115 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,750 There was a glow around my left hand a wreath of misty, white flames. 116 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:19,153 I looked closely at the left side my own dark jacket. 117 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:26,313 Was right in the middle of my heart a small, white dot. 118 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,955 I don't know what that means. 119 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,999 I have it under control, I believe. 120 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,193 12 pictures are a paper tiger. 121 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,357 You have no idea how to do that the 12 pictures should go. 122 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,558 No, I really didn't. 123 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,393 Really not. 124 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,199 Hello, Jürgen. 125 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,716 You look good! This is not good. 126 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,997 That's a bad sign. 127 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,517 You would have to actually looks smashed... 128 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,354 ...after all the obstacles. 129 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,994 I'm supposed to have crutches. 130 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,634 Sit down, Jurgen. 131 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,395 I'm looking forward to to show him to you. 132 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 I'm already skeptical. - Sure! 133 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:25,712 I can't imagine it. 134 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,156 No, right? 135 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:33,391 That there was a solution, a recipe. - I hope not. 136 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,312 It drives you crazy when a solution emerges. 137 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,796 12 images. - 12 images. That was fucking mean. 138 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,749 That was mean. That was diabolical. 139 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,237 And I should ask the questions answer the narrator's question. 140 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,754 Right, yes. 141 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,994 Rotate in one place, where I've never been. 142 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,436 And I wasn't allowed to have a set. - No. 143 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,593 Four. Quite a few for an obstacle. 144 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,198 Yes, you can probably say that. Next time there will have to be more. 145 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,392 You can be prepared for it. 146 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,951 You have exposed yourself. 147 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,871 Those around me said: Don't expose yourself to Lars. 148 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,114 And of course you do it first. This Next time we take 5 obstacles. 149 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,070 I would be ready. I'd like to show you the first obstacle. 150 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,157 The perfect person, Cuba 151 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,832 Cuba, Cuba... 152 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,360 ...Havana... 153 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,794 ...cigar... 154 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,475 ...man, woman... 155 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,235 ...Havana, Cuba. 156 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,079 This voice says these words. 157 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,957 Man, woman... 158 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:41,792 ...cigar, man. 159 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Here is the perfect person. 160 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,794 Here is the perfect person. 161 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,629 We want to investigate how the perfect one person looks and what he can do. 162 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,232 We look at the perfect person. 163 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,475 The perfect person takes off his clothes. 164 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,916 Tie, jacket... 165 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,479 ...shoes... 166 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:24,270 ...pants, shirt. 167 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,678 movements. 168 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Here is the perfect person. 169 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,480 Here is the perfect person. 170 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,159 We look at the perfect person. 171 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,834 We look at the perfect person. 172 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,919 One eye. 173 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,754 Look at this person's eye. 174 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,595 And a mouth. 175 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,394 A mouth. 176 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,073 The perfect person moves in a room. 177 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,237 There is music in the room. 178 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 There is no music in the room. 179 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,717 There is music in the room. 180 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,156 This is how he moves. 181 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,874 Why is he moving this way? 182 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,078 Because women like it, when he moves like that. 183 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,999 An ear. 184 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,675 This is what an ear looks like. 185 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,957 Another ear. 186 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,478 And another mouth. 187 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,869 Steps. She lies down. 188 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,157 How does she lie down? 189 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,757 She lays down like this. 190 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,317 So she lies down. 191 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,478 What does the perfect person think about? 192 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,554 If he thinks about happiness, about death, to love? 193 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,270 About what he's doing tonight? Maybe to women. 194 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,592 What it's like when he touches her skin. 195 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,989 Maybe he's thinking about her eyes, her legs, her mouth. 196 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,754 Maybe because of what she said to him. 197 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,833 your words. 198 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,190 And today I experienced something... 199 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,513 ...I hope so I'll understand soon. 200 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Around my left hand... 201 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,030 ...a wreath of misty radiated... 202 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,672 ...white flames. 203 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,432 I looked closely... 204 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,758 ...the left side of my dark jacket. 205 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,991 Was right in the middle of my heart a small, white dot. 206 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,319 I don't know what that means. 207 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,595 I also experienced something today I hope I will understand soon. 208 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,756 That was a complete mistake with the obstacles. 209 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,157 The one with the 12 pictures was a gift. 210 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,518 Yes, with that thought I went to work. 211 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:01,039 I have to say, that was like an old Leth film. 212 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,430 Interesting! 213 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,196 You have passed provisionally, Jürgen. - I'm glad about that. 214 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,435 I prepared a little snack, which we are taking now. 215 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,750 Good. 216 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:18,837 I'm particularly looking forward to the vodka. I have a penchant for alcohol. 217 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,073 It tastes good before 12 o'clock. - That's when he works best. 218 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,355 Splendid. - The spoon should be made of bone. 219 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,753 For caviar you shouldn't use metal. 220 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,194 We need to corner you even more drive. We need to discuss this. 221 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,716 You can decide for yourself how much you help me. 222 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,678 You should help me. 223 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,994 That's what you say, but I think... 224 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,838 ...I shouldn't worry about you let us look more into the cards. 225 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,435 You will use it against me. 226 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,392 That is clear. But this is one type Therapy. In principle it's the same. 227 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,316 Why should you go when you can... don't want to let anyone look at their cards? 228 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,594 My plan is, to come from perfect to human. 229 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,073 That's my concept, so to speak. - Yes OK. 230 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,950 Actually, I would you very fond of trivializing. 231 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,276 But how do we do that? 232 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,840 I don't know. - But we'll try. 233 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,319 But I want you to help me. Maybe we'll find something that hurts. 234 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,360 Like the one with the 12 pictures. 235 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,675 I can't name any sore points. - No, but the 12 pictures were one. 236 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,672 An absolutely sore point! 237 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,472 The excessive distance you have about the things you describe... 238 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,517 ...we could do next get to work. 239 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,073 This is not just an attitude. - No, that's very clear. 240 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,359 We could also your morals put something to the test. 241 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,751 That could be interesting. - Yes. 242 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,072 We talk so much About the morality of the viewer. 243 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Yes, my role is that of the viewer. 244 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,320 That's my instinct. 245 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,316 I don't want you as a viewer. You should live with me. 246 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,473 I could imagine you desolate place on earth. 247 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,359 Obstacle 2: a desolate place. 248 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,318 You have no problem with that. - No. 249 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,713 You can tolerate desolate places well. 250 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,031 As long as there is a hotel. 251 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,320 I don't say anything. You define yourself the most desolate place. 252 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,632 Can you imagine a place or topics that are not useful? 253 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,632 No, you can't. 254 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,871 No, not immediately. 255 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,799 Not immediately. 256 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,635 But despite everything, I'm not that rude. 257 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,591 I say this now, but it may well be that I'm reaching my limits... 258 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,071 ...when I am confronted with something. 259 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,839 You would become a dying child filming in a refugee camp... 260 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,834 ...and that with the text Accompany “The Perfect Man”? 261 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,673 No. 262 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,355 I'm not that perverted. 263 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,037 But there is a level of perversion in this whole... 264 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,670 In the distance. - Yes, in the distance. 265 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,309 And in the way you do things. 266 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,400 How far would you go if you didn't describe anything? 267 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,917 Would be interesting. A chemical experiment. 268 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,799 Would anything rub off? 269 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,351 I would like to expose you to something... 270 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,672 ...something really stressful. 271 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,118 Real dramas, that you wouldn't film. 272 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,351 Obstacle 2: desolate place, don't show 273 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,160 Yes, this is an exciting discipline. 274 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,152 How close can you get? 275 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,714 And when you come back I want, that you tell the story. 276 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,558 Let's say you're the man. 277 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,234 Jürgen Leth is the man 278 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,551 You are Claus Nissen. 279 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,556 The meal is there, the woman is not. 280 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,554 Your absence has something Pinter-ish about it. 281 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,238 But the meal is there. 282 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,039 The meal 283 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,873 Have you thought about it? 284 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,800 Yes, I changed my mind. 285 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,353 Even today I experienced something which I hope to understand soon. 286 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,390 It is the romantic idea which Lars von Trier has... 287 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:18,274 ...that you are influenced, when you are in a situation... 288 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,720 ...where a social drama takes place, before our eyes. 289 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,796 And he likes it, when you measure... 290 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:35,309 ...to what extent something affects you rubs off, has an influence. 291 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Can you see it? 292 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,360 Can it be measured? 293 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,837 But I think that's purely romantic, in a way. That's clear. 294 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,280 There is no physiological law no physical law that says... 295 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,799 ...that you can collapse... 296 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,716 ...if you have a certain proximity to something. I do not believe that. 297 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,472 We are on the way in the red light district. 298 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,752 Falkland Rd. 299 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,671 And that's a horror scene... 300 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,355 ...as I discovered a few years ago. 301 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,836 I don't have any rupees. 302 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,951 I don't have any. 303 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,157 Do you have ten rupees, Marianne? 304 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,916 I don't have any change. 305 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,710 Unfortunately you cannot open the window. 306 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,716 Please. 307 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,120 I don't have any more. 308 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,513 Lars von Trier wants a scene like that. 309 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,479 That's what he wants, right? 310 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,190 Damn, he should get her too. 311 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,679 A film like this is difficult to make. This is a difficult... 312 00:23:53,840 --> 00:24:00,076 ...task, because whatever we film... 313 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,437 ... whatever I say to you, to the camera... 314 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,320 ...it will always be a game:- 315 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,750 a constant approach... 316 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,995 ...and then show it from a distance. 317 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,638 I'm so cool. It doesn't bother me... 318 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,200 ...to play the perfect person... 319 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:33,719 ...in front of someone x-any background. 320 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,471 It's just like that. It's pretty simple. 321 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,270 You know “The Perfect Man”? - I remember. 322 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,830 We have him here. They will watch it again. 323 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,280 The most important scene is the one with the food. 324 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,473 I will act in the film. 325 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,672 Why is luck so fickle? 326 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,036 Why is the joy so short? 327 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,476 Why did you leave me? 328 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,836 Why did you go away? 329 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,793 It would be like a jump into deep water... 330 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,715 ...if I try to imitate him would. But he is the role model. 331 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,758 This is his scene. 332 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:46,672 I wrote it for him. He completely improvised. 333 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,316 I didn't write it. 334 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,790 I didn't ask him to. 335 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,716 He should just eat and bring it to an end. 336 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,032 He just eats. 337 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:05,037 That's why Claus Nissen is for me an outstanding actor. 338 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,558 Because he plays with the void. He doesn't play with anything. 339 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,791 He plays with fragments. 340 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,951 It's just brilliant what he does. 341 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,318 Walking, running, jumping, falling... 342 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,713 ...walk, lie down, lie down. 343 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,916 Do I have to change anything? 344 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,993 Looks good. Don't you want to fall? 345 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,959 What? - You don't want to fall like him? 346 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:36,956 No, I can't. Down there? No. I can't do that, damn it. 347 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,554 Out of cowardice? 348 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,316 I just can't. Hell no. 349 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,509 I can try falling here. 350 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,998 And so he falls. 351 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,033 This is terrible, totally terrible. 352 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,991 Rises again, rises again... 353 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,239 ...rises. 354 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,397 That definitely comes at the end. - We should do that. 355 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,635 How does he fall? 356 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,192 So he falls. 357 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,598 Are you taking some Valium tomorrow? - Yes. 358 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,680 I'll do it. 359 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,912 For safety. 360 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,790 I usually don't take that... 361 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,476 ...but it could be... 362 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,918 ...be wild and nerve-wracking. 363 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,915 Maybe it's good which to have with us. 364 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,517 You might need it... 365 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,116 ...if you're nervous no longer has control. 366 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,478 I'll wait for Dan to send for me. 367 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:24,390 Then I go, pull the cork out of the Chablis... 368 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,240 ...and put a fish on my plate. 369 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,393 Maybe I'll even eat some of it. 370 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,279 I'm ready for that. 371 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,955 No Valium? - No Valium. 372 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,156 The transparent shielding, that we set up... 373 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,236 ...was a very concrete image area... 374 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,916 ...a framework for reality... 375 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:35,429 ...at the same time concrete, but also incredibly subtle and artful. 376 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,277 A very elegant one and playful answer... 377 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:47,118 ...on the whole idea of this project, the distance that existed before... 378 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,475 ...include and with this Try to minimize obstacles. 379 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,554 To try the distance... 380 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,235 ...between perfect and to minimize human aspects. 381 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,874 The perfect person, Bombay 382 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,358 I also experienced something today... 383 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,678 ...I hope so I'll understand soon. 384 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,829 Around my left hand a wreath shone... 385 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560 ...misty, white flames. 386 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,990 I looked closely the left side... 387 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,756 ...my own dark jacket. 388 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,115 Right in my heart... 389 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,314 ...was a small, white dot. 390 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 I don't know what that means. 391 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,113 The perfect person will now eat and drink. 392 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,639 We will now see a meal. 393 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,320 The wine looks elegant in the glass. 394 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,600 And on the plate... 395 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,153 ...wonderful fish with rice... 396 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,394 ...onions, lemon and green sauce. 397 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,673 Plus a bottle of Chablis. 398 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,357 How does the perfect person eat? 399 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,631 The fish looks pretty out on the plate. 400 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,798 He deserves to be on silver. 401 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,399 Here you go, it's ready. 402 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,554 Now this meal should be piece by piece... 403 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,196 ...get into your mouth. 404 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,911 It tastes good... 405 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040 ...and has a good consistency. 406 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,280 Bon appetit. 407 00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:22,870 Why is luck so fickle? 408 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,919 Why is the joy so short? 409 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,795 Why did you leave me? 410 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,560 Why did you go away? 411 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,439 Very, very good. 412 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,596 Even today I experienced something which I hope to understand soon. 413 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,993 Don't get your hopes up too high that you will soon understand this. 414 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,119 No, I think so too. 415 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,919 Jürgen, I'm sorry... 416 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,517 ...but I have to use harsh words drive up. 417 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,280 Unfortunately. You know I think a lot from you and do it reluctantly. 418 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,950 This isn't... 419 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,034 ...the film I asked for. - Damned. Tell me. 420 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:58,071 One of the rules for the film was that you don't see the people. 421 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,952 But I interpreted that. - Quite. 422 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:12,037 I have to protest against this. Unfortunately I have to send you back. 423 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,309 Unfortunately I have to. There is no other way, Jürgen. 424 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,309 I can't. - We're looking for something worse. 425 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,592 The tricky thing was, she didn't to see. I'm disappointed. 426 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,677 I'm incredibly disappointed in you. 427 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,233 I thought I had accomplished a balancing act. 428 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,439 I think the film is absolutely magnificent. 429 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,196 But it doesn't meet the requirements. 430 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,995 It's a clever game. 431 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,518 I have the piece reality shielded. 432 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,709 Dan Holberg came up with the in my opinion, brilliant idea... 433 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,352 ...to make the shielding transparent. - I understand that. 434 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,594 And this film probably is better than the other... 435 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,514 ...but doesn't meet my specifications. 436 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,751 But you definitely can do differently. 437 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,957 You always want to get better. 438 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,436 And you're not allowed to do that. 439 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,475 You always want to do it too well. 440 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,114 This is therapy and not a film competition with yourself. 441 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,432 You made the best film. The first one. 442 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,200 There is no doubt about that. This is the movie. 443 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,954 Now we use it as Time machine and incentive for you... 444 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,760 ...to look at reality. 445 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,711 The last time I left here I was shocked. 446 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,316 I thought: This is impossible. 447 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,439 You can commit suicide straight away. 448 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,833 This is too difficult. The desire is missing. 449 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,392 Because that's what it needs. I thought you were too harsh. 450 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,076 Nevertheless, I soon had an idea. 451 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,677 I asked myself: “What terrible places do you know?” 452 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,077 And the first place that came to mind was a terrible experience... 453 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:17,838 ...in the red light district of Bombay, that I did a few years ago... 454 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,913 ...saw it 6 or 7 years ago. 455 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,640 It stayed with me as a horror beyond compare. 456 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,634 Something in front of almost screaming and running away. 457 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,396 I generally don't have any Fear of prostitutes... 458 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,997 ...but that was a picture of hell. 459 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,200 But we were shooting. I was cold-blooded and without scruples. 460 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,716 I thought: We can do that! 461 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,872 But the next night, two nights later... 462 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,600 ...I had one of rare nightmares... 463 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,993 ...to which you can turn remembered when waking up. 464 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,397 I came up with the analytical one Thoughts... 465 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,793 ... something "Faust"-like it was a pact... 466 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,959 ...or something devilish, Alchemical. 467 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:08,076 When you push the limits... 468 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,311 ...you pay the price... 469 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,951 ...that you are right at the border... 470 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,112 ...where fear turns into madness can be passed over. 471 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,674 If you can't sleep anymore, it's off Fear of falling back into the nightmare... 472 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,593 ...you're in shit. 473 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,798 Jürgen, you are my hero. Without doubt. 474 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,953 That's the background. - I understand that, yes. 475 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,476 I would never dare to do something like that. 476 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:39,111 Have I not exposed myself enough? - You exposed yourself insanely. 477 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:45,157 But you didn't follow that, what is most important to me. 478 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,632 Did I not follow the idea? - No. 479 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,352 That's a harsh statement. Can Don't you think about it again? 480 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,751 I've reconsidered. 481 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,877 How long have you been thinking about it? 482 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,112 Since I saw it. I have to stick with it. 483 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,749 And not just because I'm stubborn. 484 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,480 Do it again. With background. 485 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,359 The same thing again? - Same thing again. 486 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,638 It would be death to do the same thing again. 487 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,315 With me, for example. 488 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,991 I don't want to and can't do that. 489 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,358 You're putting me in a bind. 490 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,160 We are not there, where I wanted to go. 491 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,113 I am forced to punish you. 492 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,273 What form should that take? 493 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,117 In what form? 494 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,792 It shall be adapted to sin, that I have committed. 495 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,751 Which method should I use? 496 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,316 What do you want? - I can't say that. 497 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,156 I would prefer if you decide that. 498 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,757 Then make a film without any rules from me. 499 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,750 This is fucking bad. 500 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,757 That wouldn't be good. 501 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,036 It has to be that way, Jürgen. Unfortunately. 502 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,590 To keep my authority... 503 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,231 ...I have to ask you to do it again... 504 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,792 ...whatever you think is best. The Perfect Man 2002. 505 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,395 Just do it. 506 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,277 This is diabolical. 507 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,990 I have to... 508 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,437 You have a completely free hand. That is Apparently the worst for you. 509 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,720 The teacher is offended. - Yes. As a punishment, you have free rein. 510 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,951 The worst thing for you. 511 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,353 I don't like that. I'd rather stick to something. 512 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,474 Either you go to Bombay... 513 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,953 ...and you're shooting in front of a white wall or you are free. That's the way it is. 514 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,952 I don't know what should I say about that? 515 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,077 That it's below the belt line. 516 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,199 Complete freedom or back to Bombay. 517 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,189 That's it too. 518 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,356 That's how it is and that's how it has to be. - That's bullshit. 519 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,559 All I can say is: toi, toi, toi! 520 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,035 Listen to the sound of man, who takes care of himself. 521 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,838 Hear the perfect person live... 522 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,312 ...hear this sound. 523 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,709 What is this person thinking about? 524 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,194 Where is it? 525 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,440 I'll call Marianne. 526 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,631 Hello, Marianne. I'm trying to find out where we need to go. 527 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,120 Oh, here. 528 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,794 There's the 60th. 529 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,030 We have to move on. 530 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,078 It's down there. 531 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,559 Excuse me, where does it go down? 532 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,072 How do you get to the lower floor? 533 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,680 It has to be here somewhere. 534 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,996 Good morning 535 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,038 What does the perfect person feel like? 536 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,277 How is the skin? 537 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,319 Is it smooth? Is she warm? 538 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,793 Is it soft? Is it dry? 539 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,357 Is it well maintained? 540 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,631 How is the skin on your chin? 541 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,591 How are her legs? 542 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,798 In your arms? On the neck? 543 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,395 We are ready for the next recording. 544 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,518 A smoother recording. handheld camera. 545 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,719 Elevator. 546 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,715 In the elevator down with Dan and Ton. 547 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,476 Get out of the elevator at the bottom. 548 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:24,989 We rehearse. Then you go to reception and ask for news. 549 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,438 I am happy. He looks great... 550 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,798 ...has a fresh attitude to work. 551 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,953 He is very... 552 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,275 He went through something as a human being, he has life experience... 553 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,876 ...has lived. A fantastic story. 554 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,716 He played the male lead in "La Collectionneuse"... 555 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,157 ...Eric Rohmer's most important, first film. 556 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,234 In Danish he is called "Nymfomaniacs". 557 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,752 They can be moved randomly. 558 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,389 Arranged differently. 559 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,116 Magic steels, right? 560 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,912 So, Adam... 561 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,758 I imagine a kind Ghost ballet with the chairs. 562 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,071 We'll start with a lineup... 563 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,791 ...then we'll go there and move them. 564 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,314 Quite by chance... 565 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,430 ...like it's new to us and seems interesting. 566 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,440 Probably best facing forward. 567 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,992 But just like that, as you like it. 568 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,069 "Someone moved them in the dark". 569 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,640 A mystical hand. 570 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,912 That's the idea we come from from the original scene. 571 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,354 At the end he sits in one of the chairs. 572 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,196 Look, this is what an ear looks like. 573 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,315 And here are knees. 574 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,193 And here a foot. 575 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,189 Another ear. 576 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,519 Here is an eye. 577 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,637 Look at this human eye. 578 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,040 And here comes a mouth. 579 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,680 A mouth. 580 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,429 And another mouth. 581 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,111 "Repeat several times. Woman on chair in a room. 582 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,997 She sits there and does nothing. 583 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,994 She stands up, disappears from the picture. 584 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,311 And that several times." We shot that. 585 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,514 "Strange cars come to you Group of houses... 586 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,037 ...a forest, a field, a beach." 587 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,876 We didn't do that. 588 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,315 Not done. 589 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,712 "A lighted house in the darkness. 590 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,634 A murmur in the darkness. 591 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,519 Piano music." 592 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,717 We bring that in. 593 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,152 But this... 594 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,037 "In the back seat a woman lets herself be undressed." 595 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,238 We did that. 596 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,356 It is very much a dialogue. 597 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,480 The ball goes back and forth over the net. 598 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,712 He serves hard. We counteract hard. 599 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,439 That's how it is. 600 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,476 He serves hard again. 601 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,396 Deadly. And you really have to give everything... 602 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,190 ...to hit the ball back again. 603 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,312 So you are there, to show me something. 604 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,397 The third obstacle. - Really? 605 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,991 I'm ready when you're ready. 606 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,875 Let's go. 607 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:49,399 Even today I experienced something which I hope to understand soon. 608 00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:00,000 The perfect person, Brussels. 609 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,594 Here is the man. 610 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,033 Here he is. 611 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,599 What does he want? 612 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,678 Here is the woman. 613 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,878 Here she is. 614 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,198 What does she want? 615 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,872 What is she doing? 616 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,478 Who is she? 617 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,078 Here is a man. We don't know him. 618 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,320 I don't know what to say about him. 619 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,079 We like that he is special. 620 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,354 Nonsensical. 621 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,756 A distant look. The loss of the soul. 622 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,074 The distant look. 623 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,755 Good afternoon sir, how are you? 624 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,315 A message for 411? - No, not at the moment. 625 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,318 I would like to know a little more about him. 626 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,235 I can see he's here. 627 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,472 And that he works. 628 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,232 I saw him smoking a cigarette. 629 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,829 I didn't see him write. 630 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,515 Can he describe death well? 631 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,750 Is he thinking about fucking? 632 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,954 He is alone and getting ready. 633 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,155 He goes away and takes care of himself about the matter. 634 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,676 He is the perfect man. 635 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,594 Here is the perfect woman. 636 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,712 I am a woman. 637 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,159 One of the best, one of the richest in love... 638 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,796 ...one of the most experienced. 639 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,033 I, who am always faithful, that I am always lovable, 640 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:43,190 that I am always sensitive, that I am very much in love, 641 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:46,394 that I am very elegant, 642 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,394 I am one of the most beautiful women, 643 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,560 I feel a lot of affection for others, 644 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,758 I have many emotions, 645 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,958 I am a woman of strong will. 646 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,320 O.K., we can start here. 647 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,872 The three films you made have left no trace on you. 648 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,870 They may have hurt, but leave no trace. 649 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,799 I want to find out with you what leaves a mark on you. 650 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,432 Of course only if you want. 651 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,310 I see it as collaboration of actors. 652 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,633 It's like... - You want to challenge me. 653 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,273 The best you can get from one actors can get 654 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,636 is that he does shit. 655 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,520 I want from the same gift to you... 656 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,036 ...like my actors with a scene... 657 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,989 ...which is completely unsatisfactory for them, But it's good for me... 658 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,914 ...because they are through the machine came... 659 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,276 ...those of the actors is in the situation. 660 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,636 As if you were chop cabbage in the meat grinder, 661 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,874 after having vanilla biscuits has made. 662 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,995 This was done before. Pure cabbage. 663 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,514 For cleaning. 664 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,435 Then crumbs came out, that nobody liked. 665 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:06,192 As a kind of sacrifice for this film... 666 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,510 ...perhaps we should do this fidgeting feeling of a turtle... 667 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,956 ...feel on your back. 668 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,032 I write down: "Turtle." 669 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,719 The problem is that you are so smart and you can be inspired by my ideas. 670 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,600 Yes, that's right. I can't help it. 671 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,991 We can't avoid that. 672 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,234 But if you think about which technology you need. 673 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,315 It's desire. - Highly. 674 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,680 What I usually do is, I look for places or isolate things... 675 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,834 ...which I want to look at in detail. That is the method. 676 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,112 I outline them very precisely. 677 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,356 I'm waiting for the right moment. 678 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,954 As you know, that's my principle “wait and watch”. 679 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,752 But I'm thinking about what I'm damning do it again when I work. 680 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,311 What it is that makes everything. 681 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,679 Because sometimes you have to say: This has become the biggest mess. 682 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:17,837 Then you ask yourself why, but it is something you can't control. 683 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,876 Having control is uninteresting. 684 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,549 I trust blindly, that something happens... 685 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,030 ...that you can't control... 686 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:31,070 ...if you have a lock or built a frame. 687 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,390 I love it when it slips away from me. 688 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,390 Now I'm going to ask a very, very simple one Rules on for your film. 689 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,518 And it just has to be shit. 690 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,514 And it's OK if it sucks. I'd be happy if it turned out to be shit. 691 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:58,519 The only condition for the film is that it should be a cartoon. 692 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,959 Obstacle 4: cartoon 693 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:10,077 The advantage of the cartoon is that you have to make a lot of decisions. 694 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,232 aesthetically and all. 695 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,154 This can turn out badly. 696 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,600 I hate cartoons. - Me too. 697 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,520 I hate cartoons. - Me too. 698 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,833 I don't like the technology to invent or learn. 699 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,719 Really not. 700 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:39,714 I won't have any time at any spend some time on the stupid drawing table or something. 701 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,759 I certainly won't do that. 702 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,396 No. 703 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,759 I'm doing well. I'm sitting in the taxi. 704 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,158 Pretty wild stuff. 705 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,438 I'm supposed to make a cartoon. 706 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,555 I'm supposed to make a cartoon. 707 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,513 Far-fetched. 708 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,235 Suddenly he came up with the idea. 709 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,040 I said, I hate cartoons. 710 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,760 I've never liked one. 711 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:30,512 He said he felt the same way. He can Can't stand cartoons. 712 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,560 not at all. 713 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:39,360 I understood the logic behind it, damn... 714 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,278 ...you know... 715 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:50,157 We've talked about it. I can not using a specific art style. 716 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,440 In the style of... 717 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,079 ...Picasso or something or loose lines. 718 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,951 A cartoon like this how we don't like them. 719 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,554 Yes, damn it, I'm serious. 720 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,034 We don't have to film anything new. 721 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,431 We should see that as an advantage. 722 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,435 We don't have to film anything new. We're using something old. 723 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,913 It doesn't have to be used, right? look recycled. 724 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,914 We will actively use it. 725 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,393 We will write a new text, a new connection... 726 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,873 ...and hopefully him help you gain new freshness. 727 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,795 That doesn't quite correspond Lars von Trier's wish. 728 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,955 He would rather have no freshness or inspiration or ideas... 729 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:02,593 ...or poetry, he would rather have something Something slacker, more dim. 730 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,991 It's supposed to be stupid, so to speak. 731 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,277 But I can't do that. 732 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,990 I refuse. We have to make something of it. 733 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,234 I think it actually is an exciting task. 734 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,598 That's how I feel at the moment. 735 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,754 We're on our way to see Bob Sabiston. 736 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,231 We meet him for the first time. This will be exciting. 737 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:32,918 I think we're all very excited and also nervous. 738 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,672 He got the scenes from Camilla, a few days ago. 739 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,357 I got them three days ago. 740 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,751 You didn't see her. 741 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:51,075 We know that we would like suggestions from him... 742 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,311 ...like we watch a cartoon based... 743 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,154 ...on “The Perfect Man” can do. 744 01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:01,271 We are curious whether he has any suggestions has or wants to show us something. 745 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,113 So we're excited. 746 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,397 Also looking forward to meeting him. 747 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:11,875 We only contacted the man because of his reputation. 748 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,360 We only had written contact. 749 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:23,197 This is the solution, that we came up with. 750 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,877 Nice to meet you. 751 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,716 I was looking forward to it. 752 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,351 That's his face, of course. 753 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,477 We really like that. 754 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,319 The advantage is that he is actually very strong. 755 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:58,519 It gets even stronger, when you draw him. 756 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,313 I find it very powerful. The sparkle in his eyes. 757 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,759 Difficult decision. We also like the Francis Bacon style. 758 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,312 But we really like that. 759 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,312 This shouldn't go away. 760 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,358 So that there. 761 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,070 That might even be better. 762 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:24,072 But if you see the sad pictures for example compare with this one... 763 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,711 ...would you rather take this? - Yes, I think so. 764 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,072 But I like this. 765 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,794 But wouldn't both be possible? 766 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,670 This is just a little later in the scene. - That's later. 767 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,430 I like that. It should be in the movie. 768 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,270 And that is also possible. Then we have... 769 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,479 They're all good. Take that us too. Same scene. 770 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,236 That was good. I don't know what to do. 771 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,557 Here you have too the gangsters made? 772 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,070 I would like to have that too. 773 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:08,954 That's good. 774 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,711 I want that too. 775 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,919 Do you think it will be a mess this time? 776 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,631 No, I don't think so. 777 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,232 I think we're doing something Interesting things. 778 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,750 It may be that Lars von Trier will be very disappointed or angry. 779 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,640 However. - Yes, but... 780 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,554 ...even though we don't can control... 781 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,237 ...and cartoons are boring are, we strive... 782 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,396 ...think intensively about the matter and try to find a solution... 783 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,392 ...that satisfies us. 784 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,398 And that's why, unfortunately, I don't think that it will be crap. 785 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,478 Do you also have red? 786 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,837 How much does it matter? 787 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,592 No, I'll take two boxes. 788 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,637 Give me two boxes. 789 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,279 Look here. The perfect person moves in a room. 790 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,191 The perfect person can move around a room. 791 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,872 The space is limitless and illuminated. 792 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,071 It's an empty room. 793 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,996 There are no limits here. 794 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,352 There's nothing here. 795 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,912 Hello, Jürgen. - Hello, Lars. 796 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:28,794 I'm calling you because we're watching the movie you should look at the one you made. 797 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,640 Have you finished it? - Yes, he's ready. 798 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,793 I'm happy to show it to you. 799 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,713 You sound a little too happy. 800 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:44,678 I am very happy with it and I'm really looking forward to your opinion. 801 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,513 Shall we get started? 802 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,116 Yes, I'm ready to start it. 803 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,591 I'll press play now. 804 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,474 Me too. 805 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,229 Unpleasure. 806 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,880 Obstacle 4: cartoon 807 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,315 The fan rotates and pushes the heavy air around. 808 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,438 I write it down, get it right. 809 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,193 I am calm. 810 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,193 The perfect person. 811 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:34,714 We just say that and hope that he can do what we say. 812 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,559 Just walk a bit, say a few words. 813 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,237 It's not too much. 814 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,718 How do I feel? 815 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,630 How do I not feel? 816 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:25,036 Can I get better? In dealing with life? 817 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,871 I want to feel, feel. 818 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:35,240 I want to describe, try to put everything in its place. 819 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,392 I smoke a cigarette. 820 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,678 I think of you. 821 01:09:47,480 --> 01:09:49,631 I'm thinking about your knee. 822 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,399 As I hold you behind the knee. 823 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,557 I smoke a cigarette. 824 01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:04,272 You can say, it is an improvement... 825 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:07,319 ...cigars and cigarettes instead of smoking a pipe. 826 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,477 The notebook is an improvement of lifestyle. 827 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,189 You should have eaten sushi in Bombay, that would have been better. 828 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,750 Are the temperature of the skin and the texture... 829 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,114 ...part of something I have? 830 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,151 Is that my wife? 831 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:47,039 She whispers to me, when she turns around half asleep... 832 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:53,234 ...when she lies down, when she turns her head slightly? 833 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,550 We want to see what he can do and what not. 834 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,037 Is he perfect enough? 835 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,191 Or not perfect? 836 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,758 Is he free? 837 01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:01,751 focus, concentrate... 838 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,598 ...it in simple terms Write down sentences. 839 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,390 Jacket. 840 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,040 Jacket. 841 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:36,111 Even today I experienced something which I hope to understand soon. 842 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:41,753 There was a glow around my left hand a wreath of misty, white flames. 843 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,157 Was right in the middle of my heart a small, white dot. 844 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,156 I don't know what that means. 845 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,919 We're done here. 846 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,433 Me too. 847 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,589 You are a player. But we'll get back to it. 848 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,518 I think it's a great film. 849 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,879 Funny how he wears the jacket attracts several times. 850 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,396 Yes, that is... 851 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,878 ...the cartoon world from MTV. 852 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:21,030 But I was prepared for this situation prepared, I have to admit. 853 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,632 I feel obliged to to finish it. 854 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,718 Obstacle 5: Lars von Trier sets the last obstacle. 855 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,200 That's what I hoped. 856 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,877 I am the educational driving force. 857 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:43,074 The ultimate obstacle at the end it will be that you don't do anything... 858 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,631 ...but you will be listed as a director. 859 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,560 Jürgen Leth is listed as Director listed. 860 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,076 J�rgen Leth reads a text by Lars von Trier. 861 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,152 You don't have to do anything else. 862 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,433 I have to admit that I am for the Film using the material... 863 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,277 ...that we during the "obstacles" have recorded. 864 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,993 I hope we have something human made in our conversations. 865 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,953 That's the idea. 866 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,914 I'm sure you don't mind. 867 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,680 No, nothing at all. 868 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,396 I think that's fantastic. 869 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,192 You can now again with a clear conscience... 870 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,278 ...sink into your Haiti depression. 871 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,878 Please say hello to everyone. And I'm eating now the damn caviar again. 872 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,029 He was very happy with it. 873 01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:45,949 He let it pass as a cartoon. 874 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:52,635 There was no reason, a big deal to make from what we have done. 875 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:58,159 That's clear. I wanted myself don't criticize or praise. 876 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,155 That would have been unnecessary. There were no objections. 877 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:15,800 There are a few areas in the Lives in which I am an expert. 878 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,635 One of them is Jürgen Leth. 879 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:24,798 I know a lot more about him than himself. 880 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:33,474 So this whole project was kind of “Hilf-Jürgen-Leth Project”. 881 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,397 I should read a text Lars von Trier wrote for me. 882 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,756 As a fifth obstacle. 883 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,598 He will instruct me. 884 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,640 It's actually fiction. 885 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:59,592 It's a letter to him from me, which begins with the words:- 886 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,513 “Dear stupid Lars”. 887 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,431 This will be the “voice over”. a few sequences... 888 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,230 ...who are looking for Camilla and put together. 889 01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:13,433 He wants it all in one way certain way... 890 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,071 ...and he doesn't want to see what Camilla cuts... 891 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,234 ...until we meet the day after tomorrow or whenever May 1st is. 892 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,998 You little rascal you. 893 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,713 You look happier and happier. 894 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,231 Soon no more. 895 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,949 You will force me to read quickly. 896 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,554 Oh no! 897 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,474 No, it has to come from within. 898 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,800 Now you're like the actors who come and are incredibly nervous. 899 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,520 Not necessary. I take the blame. 900 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,592 You're not to blame at all. 901 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,592 You are like a little child. 902 01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,960 You don't have to do anything. I am the only one who does something. This is what it looks like. 903 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,554 Good. - Not even practice. 904 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:08,035 "Jürgen leaves Sartres and Hemingways historical flapping of wings the discomfort... 905 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,990 ...and the damn one Carry away uncertainty... 906 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,392 ...because he doesn't dare to fly yourself. 907 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,517 I saw through him." - Emphasize “fly” instead of “self”. 908 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,035 You want to avoid the text. 909 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:30,594 You said "to fly yourself". But he doesn't want to fly himself. 910 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,399 That's what it's all about. - Yes, sure. 911 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,631 You're really squirming. 912 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,472 In my own cinematic Education was... 913 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,590 ...what J�rgen so beautifully rules the game always very, very important. 914 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,197 He has them in brought in my universe. 915 01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:53,799 These rules of the game are a kind of limit or self-discipline, if you will. 916 01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,795 I wanted to impose this discipline on Jürgen. 917 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:07,629 I've told you so many times that you should now make some crap. 918 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:10,993 I didn't do it... 919 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,595 I can only hope that this is crap. Exciting. 920 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,753 The text is strong. 921 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,277 It's written. He stands. - The text is written. 922 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:22,592 I still have it with me a few comments added. 923 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,913 How the film is edited: illustrative in relation to the words. 924 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,838 That was very important because I don't see in your work. 925 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,233 That's one of your rules of the game. I don't do that. 926 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,679 It'll be funny, the pictures to be used illustratively. 927 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,555 Don't we just want to take a look at it? 928 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,032 Obstacle 5: 929 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,558 "Dear stupid Lars. You really have thought you could hinder me, yes? 930 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,240 I hope you understand it better now. 931 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,154 You've had a few days now. 932 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,757 The obstacles didn't follow a plan, but you had a theory. 933 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:04,199 I know exactly what you were thinking: 'There's Jurgen. 934 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,159 What strange creature is this? Jürgen is a poor guy. 935 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,880 Like me,' you thought. 936 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,074 He made the film who was closest to you. 937 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,118 You were sure of that. 938 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,154 'We have to get out of the same be family.' 939 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,754 And just as you will be chastised wanted, you chastised Jürgen. 940 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,838 This was a personal attack. Admit it. 941 01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:34,318 You thought, 'It's so easy. 942 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:39,475 Jürgen hides his self behind his provocative perverse perfection. 943 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:43,475 He hides his fear behind a personal fiction... 944 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,277 ...those on an infinite series based on Armani suits... 945 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:51,559 ...who took care of him during the months Protecting Haiti from depression. 946 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:57,758 Jürgen leaves Sartres and Hemingways historical flapping of wings the discomfort... 947 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,118 ...and the damn one Carry away uncertainty... 948 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,432 ...because he doesn't dare to fly himself. 949 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,598 I saw through him. 950 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,355 That was arrogant, but I see that it was well-intentioned. 951 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:17,072 You wanted to go where the scream was, and let him out. 952 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,709 'He is the most beautiful bird', you thought. 953 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,837 'But he doesn't believe it.' 954 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,154 'I'll hunt him down, until he flies,' you thought, Lars. 955 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,077 So you started conducting and to give me strict prohibitions. 956 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,517 To distract, to my tank to penetrate. 957 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,440 'We could Jürgen distract with a film assignment.' 958 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,433 This is how the perfect person makes a film. Look at him making a movie. 959 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,192 This is how he exposes himself. 'Or if I provoke him?' 960 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:55,195 Film him with an open visor, then we find all the gaps. 961 01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,040 But the clarinet is so strange to these pictures also sounded... 962 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,874 ...you couldn't get through my eyes look through. 963 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,475 No matter how close you were, you could... 964 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:10,112 ...as much as you wanted to, not look under the skin of my hand... 965 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,752 ...on the nerves and the depths, highly fragile vessels. 966 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,800 Nothing was to be seen. And nothing helped. 967 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,476 I don't come from ruins and say thank you, Lars. 968 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,034 And yet! In this second you have me. 969 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,398 You force me to read your text. 970 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,950 So let's get it over with. 971 01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:38,200 Dear Lars. Thanks for the obstacles. 972 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:43,640 You showed me what I am: a miserable human being! 973 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,271 I hold the world around me fool around... 974 01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:50,194 ...because I'm not part of it want to be of it. 975 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,197 My trick is cheap and I use it forever. 976 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,473 I thought about this early on: 977 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,040 If I just tell you what I see 978 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,317 nothing else, like a prisoner of war... 979 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:04,440 ...the name in the interrogation and number repeated. 980 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,831 Feelings are too dangerous for me. 981 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,993 They would become the world and take me over. 982 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,871 I call it art. But I'm sure that I can't do anything. 983 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,716 I'll do it all, to endure myself. 984 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:24,399 My films are a bluff, a hiding place, Lars. Thanks for the nice chastisement. 985 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,074 Was it good to hear that? Does it change anything? 986 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,835 Maybe you lay someone words in your mouth, 987 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,595 so that you don't have to say them yourself. 988 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,272 No, it doesn't change anything. You know that. 989 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:42,114 Your theory held not true, Lars. 990 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,433 Your educational mission failed. 991 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,671 With every obstacle my hands shook less. 992 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,877 I became aware of my business always safer... 993 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:57,398 ...and moved more and more People gone in my first film... 994 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,551 ...and everyone else, except you. 995 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:05,398 You said I dare not go my way to find the... 996 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,519 ...which I was so dishonest and skillfully hide... 997 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,149 ...and what do you think? after is so valuable. 998 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,118 But it's no use. 999 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:18,472 You were the dishonest one, Lars, because you saw what you wanted. 1000 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,430 Your skepticism towards yourself had to apply to me too. 1001 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,276 You wanted to expose me, but you exposed yourself. 1002 01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:30,912 You wanted to make me human, but can't you see that's me? 1003 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,836 You made me play along, But you put me on the defensive. 1004 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:42,233 We know that actually the Attacker exposes himself. 1005 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,756 You failed. 1006 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,914 And I hindered you, as hard as you were you also wish the opposite. 1007 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,560 And you fell flat. 1008 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:57,358 How does the perfect person fall? This is how the perfect person falls."